LFC NET Spend for Jan 2011 Transfer Window

Subject: LFC NET Spend for Jan 2011 Transfer Window Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:08 am

We spent £58m approx and recouped £56m. - 2 players in, one a unknown quantity for the PL, one injured.

Although it looked spectacular how we spashed the cash, in effect we spent approx £1.7m and didn't we sell a Reserve player during the window as well, so less again... Plus was Carroll and Suarez deals outright amounts or add ons included to inflate the price... as according to all sources, Torres deal is an outright £50m.

As much as I am excited at who we got, I still feel down inside today. Yep I feel very gutted at how this whole Torres saga happened.

Equally we have a Thread on here saying we are back as major players. Well we re-invested the monies back into the playing squad, so I suppose that's a start after H&G syphoned the money off to pay debts... But we still had to sell to buy, albeit on this occasion Torres forced the Club's hands.

WD & L22 were right when they questioned why we suddenly where willing to pay double for Suarez and push the deal through so quickly... The Club had prior knowledge that Torres was going and therefore knew they would recoup the funds, otherwise why weren't these targets sown up much sooner... and before people knew we would have this cash.

Too many questions to ask again... and I can't help feeling that there wasn't enough done in this transfer window and why perhaps Torres felt the need to leave... at least he raised us necessary funds to buy in two top class replacements, but equally I feel we would have got more in the summer when he wasn't cup tied [just my take on it]...

But for me, if NESV wanted to make a statement, then there would have been more invested and we would have got other top targets such as Young etc. We already know in the summer that we will be selling a lot of players, Aqua, Insua, Poulsen, Konchesky, probably Cole, Jovanovic to name a few... this will raise some funds, but will NESV top this up?

As stated, too many questions and still not enough answers... But at least for the first time since the Summer 08 Transfer window, our spend in the transfer market is showing that we actually spent more than we received... That figure is around £1.5m... To me this doesn't say we had huge investment in the playing squad, just we offloaded a number of players and got 2 in.

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more than anything else, it's a confirmation of NESV/FSG's intent to reinvest transfer money back into the playing squad AND that KENNY DALGLISH will be the manager well into the foreseeable future.

for what it's worth, its a huge change from the G & H and Purslow days...

so on that account, i'm happy.

gutted about the torres transfer though...... still can't imagine the lad will be wearing blue against us on sunday...

Sad

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Thats togger ball lads and tbh we are in a much better position now than the start of the season. We had a manager who nobody wanted, we had owners who nobody wanted, we had a striker who nobody recognised. Today we have owners who it appears are looking to improve us, we have a manager who we love and now we have two new young players to freshen up the squad. I'm very happy today, happier about us than I have been for a while now. I'm looking forward to the run in and seeing how these lads play together and fit in.

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Last edited by jbarkingmad on Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:23 am; edited 1 time in total

RushiesTache wrote:

more than anything else, it's a confirmation of NESV/FSG's intent to reinvest transfer money back into the playing squad AND that KENNY DALGLISH will be the manager well into the foreseeable future.

for what it's worth, its a huge change from the G & H and Purslow days...

so on that account, i'm happy.

gutted about the torres transfer though...... still can't imagine the lad will be wearing blue against us on sunday...

Sad

Starting with the Torres thing, I watched that footage on Chav TV and felt sick. Its like coming home and catching the wife with someone else and what he said... I am surprised I still have a TV this morning. He is gone in my eyes. To me he is just another figure to despise in blue.

But back to NESV. If we have to sell to buy, then realistically we will not be better off. The squad needs investment and although [as I said] I am happy they re-invested the monies received back into the playing personnel [and this truly makes a change from the previous regime]... we still need major investment, and this was in effect the last transfer window we could do all this without having to live within our means.

Now it can be argued that the targets weren't there and we would have paid an over-inflated price... But in truth we only jumped into the transfer market at the back end... and in the days when it is now coming to light that the Chavs had put in an offer and Torres' representatives made it clear he wanted LFC to listen to this...

Dress it up however any one wants, but I don't think we would have bought anyone. Yes we sounded out and tried to get on the cheap, but remember Everton used to do such things to make out to their supporters they where in the market...

So far NESV are making the right noises and they are pulling off slight of hand tricks that impress, but for me there needs to be questions asked and one of them is, "Do they think that £1.5m investment in the transfer market is adequate, when we let 2 forwards go and replaced with just 2, especially when we needed a winger, a strong CB and a LB?"

I'd ask everyone to look and consider what I am saying.

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jbarkingmad wrote:

We spent £58m approx and recouped £56m. - 2 players in, one a unknown quantity for the PL, one injured.

Although it looked spectacular how we spashed the cash, in effect we spent approx £1.7m and didn't we sell a Reserve player during the window as well, so less again... Plus was Carroll and Suarez deals outright amounts or add ons included to inflate the price... as according to all sources, Torres deal is an outright £50m.

As much as I am excited at who we got, I still feel down inside today. Yep I feel very gutted at how this whole Torres saga happened.

Equally we have a Thread on here saying we are back as major players. Well we re-invested the monies back into the playing squad, so I suppose that's a start after H&G syphoned the money off to pay debts... But we still had to sell to buy, albeit on this occasion Torres forced the Club's hands.

WD & L22 were right when they questioned why we suddenly where willing to pay double for Suarez and push the deal through so quickly... The Club had prior knowledge that Torres was going and therefore knew they would recoup the funds, otherwise why weren't these targets sown up much sooner... and before people knew we would have this cash.

Too many questions to ask again... and I can't help feeling that there wasn't enough done in this transfer window and why perhaps Torres felt the need to leave... at least he raised us necessary funds to buy in two top class replacements, but equally I feel we would have got more in the summer when he wasn't cup tied [just my take on it]...

But for me, if NESV wanted to make a statement, then there would have been more invested and we would have got other top targets such as Young etc. We already know in the summer that we will be selling a lot of players, Aqua, Insua, Poulsen, Konchesky, probably Cole, Jovanovic to name a few... this will raise some funds, but will NESV top this up?

As stated, too many questions and still not enough answers... But at least for the first time since the Summer 08 Transfer window, our spend in the transfer market is showing that we actually spent more than we received... That figure is around £1.5m... To me this doesn't say we had huge investment in the playing squad, just we offloaded a number of players and got 2 in.

Good post JBM.

FSG have spent next to nothing in this window, though I doubt Kenny would lied that they had the money to back him. For me and it's been an on-going sore for 12 years now, we STILL lack skill and pace in the wide areas of the pitch to make enough chances for our new strikers... that alongside the central defence is the main areas where we need top quality reinforcements.

To put yesterday into perspective we only got Maxi Rodriguez on a free this time last year but as you say time will tell.

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RushiesTache wrote:

more than anything else, it's a confirmation of NESV/FSG's intent to reinvest transfer money back into the playing squad AND that KENNY DALGLISH will be the manager well into the foreseeable future.

for what it's worth, its a huge change from the G & H and Purslow days...

so on that account, i'm happy.

gutted about the torres transfer though...... still can't imagine the lad will be wearing blue against us on sunday...

Sad

Is that good enough though? Hell of a lot better than where we were under the cowboys but jury's still out for me. To challenge again for Top 4 we at least need to have a net outlay of 20m season imo

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Jon Bon Jovi wrote:

RushiesTache wrote:

more than anything else, it's a confirmation of NESV/FSG's intent to reinvest transfer money back into the playing squad AND that KENNY DALGLISH will be the manager well into the foreseeable future.

for what it's worth, its a huge change from the G & H and Purslow days...

so on that account, i'm happy.

gutted about the torres transfer though...... still can't imagine the lad will be wearing blue against us on sunday...

Sad

Is that good enough though? Hell of a lot better than where we were under the cowboys but jury's still out for me. To challenge again for Top 4 we at least need to have a net outlay of 20m season imo

fully agree. but JBJ, NORMALLY there's no one worth going for in the january transfer window as what they all tell us .( unless you're chelsea and its torres Crying or Very sad

)

In their 'FIRST ' transfer window, NESV/FSG have backed the manager . far more than any of us could have hoped for and let's be honest, 35M for Caroll is a huge huge risk under any circumstances.

the summer window, will show us EXACTLY how far they are willing to go.

let's give them a chance.

and finally.... we've got kenny back.. that in itself is a fantastic decision on thier part.

Sonny Jim wrote:

jbarkingmad wrote:

We spent £58m approx and recouped £56m. - 2 players in, one a unknown quantity for the PL, one injured.

Although it looked spectacular how we spashed the cash, in effect we spent approx £1.7m and didn't we sell a Reserve player during the window as well, so less again... Plus was Carroll and Suarez deals outright amounts or add ons included to inflate the price... as according to all sources, Torres deal is an outright £50m.

As much as I am excited at who we got, I still feel down inside today. Yep I feel very gutted at how this whole Torres saga happened.

Equally we have a Thread on here saying we are back as major players. Well we re-invested the monies back into the playing squad, so I suppose that's a start after H&G syphoned the money off to pay debts... But we still had to sell to buy, albeit on this occasion Torres forced the Club's hands.

WD & L22 were right when they questioned why we suddenly where willing to pay double for Suarez and push the deal through so quickly... The Club had prior knowledge that Torres was going and therefore knew they would recoup the funds, otherwise why weren't these targets sown up much sooner... and before people knew we would have this cash.

Too many questions to ask again... and I can't help feeling that there wasn't enough done in this transfer window and why perhaps Torres felt the need to leave... at least he raised us necessary funds to buy in two top class replacements, but equally I feel we would have got more in the summer when he wasn't cup tied [just my take on it]...

But for me, if NESV wanted to make a statement, then there would have been more invested and we would have got other top targets such as Young etc. We already know in the summer that we will be selling a lot of players, Aqua, Insua, Poulsen, Konchesky, probably Cole, Jovanovic to name a few... this will raise some funds, but will NESV top this up?

As stated, too many questions and still not enough answers... But at least for the first time since the Summer 08 Transfer window, our spend in the transfer market is showing that we actually spent more than we received... That figure is around £1.5m... To me this doesn't say we had huge investment in the playing squad, just we offloaded a number of players and got 2 in.

Good post JBM.

FSG have spent next to nothing in this window, though I doubt Kenny would lied that they had the money to back him. For me and it's been an on-going sore for 12 years now, we STILL lack skill and pace in the wide areas of the pitch to make enough chances for our new strikers... that alongside the central defence is the main areas where we need top quality reinforcements.

To put yesterday into perspective we only got Maxi Rodriguez on a free this time last year but as you say time will tell.

The perspective is good to show case the previous regime, but... as I keep reiterating, should we always have to bench mark NESV against them. We keep doing that and then they will always have a get-out-clause, because lets face it, anything is an improvement...

But some of us can't be won over so easy. I went to great lengths to demonstrate that H&G should not be given the keys to Anfield, but they got it, with most getting excited. I was shouted down, laughed at, especially when we bought certain players and all seemed rosey...

For me I have always been trying to establish FSG/NESV and where they are going. I mean it took near mutiny to resolve the Roy thing and trust me, NESV nearly had the biggest mess ever to sort out, as it was that close to going off big time... They literally adverted all this with a day to spare.

Now Torres has left and done so under a cloud. Unhappy at broken promises, did he feel there were more???

For me, I was never sure that NESV would invest money this window, especially with Roy there, but a lot of that was there own making by retaining his services for longer than they should...

I hear what Kenny says, but again action speak louder than words and it needs bringing to people's attention that £1.5m investment is basically no more than finishing a few places higher up the PL ladder and can be recovered in the run-in.

There was no investment, lets just be straight up with this, regardless of the feel good factor... and that is the one question that needs slapping at NESV's feet. - Trust me on this. If Torres had gone and we got no one in, then all hell would have broken out, so again they had to do something [another case of their hands forced. That's now 2 and not looking good eh?]

I am stating everyone should not get carried away at seeing us splash huge wads of cash, because the STRAPLINE still reads the same... We SELL to BUY... and I saw nothing in this transfer window that says anything different.

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jbarkingmad wrote:

Sonny Jim wrote:

jbarkingmad wrote:

We spent £58m approx and recouped £56m. - 2 players in, one a unknown quantity for the PL, one injured.

Although it looked spectacular how we spashed the cash, in effect we spent approx £1.7m and didn't we sell a Reserve player during the window as well, so less again... Plus was Carroll and Suarez deals outright amounts or add ons included to inflate the price... as according to all sources, Torres deal is an outright £50m.

As much as I am excited at who we got, I still feel down inside today. Yep I feel very gutted at how this whole Torres saga happened.

Equally we have a Thread on here saying we are back as major players. Well we re-invested the monies back into the playing squad, so I suppose that's a start after H&G syphoned the money off to pay debts... But we still had to sell to buy, albeit on this occasion Torres forced the Club's hands.

WD & L22 were right when they questioned why we suddenly where willing to pay double for Suarez and push the deal through so quickly... The Club had prior knowledge that Torres was going and therefore knew they would recoup the funds, otherwise why weren't these targets sown up much sooner... and before people knew we would have this cash.

Too many questions to ask again... and I can't help feeling that there wasn't enough done in this transfer window and why perhaps Torres felt the need to leave... at least he raised us necessary funds to buy in two top class replacements, but equally I feel we would have got more in the summer when he wasn't cup tied [just my take on it]...

But for me, if NESV wanted to make a statement, then there would have been more invested and we would have got other top targets such as Young etc. We already know in the summer that we will be selling a lot of players, Aqua, Insua, Poulsen, Konchesky, probably Cole, Jovanovic to name a few... this will raise some funds, but will NESV top this up?

As stated, too many questions and still not enough answers... But at least for the first time since the Summer 08 Transfer window, our spend in the transfer market is showing that we actually spent more than we received... That figure is around £1.5m... To me this doesn't say we had huge investment in the playing squad, just we offloaded a number of players and got 2 in.

Good post JBM.

FSG have spent next to nothing in this window, though I doubt Kenny would lied that they had the money to back him. For me and it's been an on-going sore for 12 years now, we STILL lack skill and pace in the wide areas of the pitch to make enough chances for our new strikers... that alongside the central defence is the main areas where we need top quality reinforcements.

To put yesterday into perspective we only got Maxi Rodriguez on a free this time last year but as you say time will tell.

The perspective is good to show case the previous regime, but... as I keep reiterating, should we always have to bench mark NESV against them. We keep doing that and then they will always have a get-out-clause, because lets face it, anything is an improvement...

But some of us can't be won over so easy. I went to great lengths to demonstrate that H&G should not be given the keys to Anfield, but they got it, with most getting excited. I was shouted down, laughed at, especially when we bought certain players and all seemed rosey...

For me I have always been trying to establish FSG/NESV and where they are going. I mean it took near mutiny to resolve the Roy thing and trust me, NESV nearly had the biggest mess ever to sort out, as it was that close to going off big time... They literally adverted all this with a day to spare.

Now Torres has left and done so under a cloud. Unhappy at broken promises, did he feel there were more???

For me, I was never sure that NESV would invest money this window, especially with Roy there, but a lot of that was there own making by retaining his services for longer than they should...

I hear what Kenny says, but again action speak louder than words and it needs bringing to people's attention that £1.5m investment is basically no more than finishing a few places higher up the PL ladder and can be recovered in the run-in.

There was no investment, lets just be straight up with this, regardless of the feel good factor... and that is the one question that needs slapping at NESV's feet. - Trust me on this. If Torres had gone and we got no one in, then all hell would have broken out, so again they had to do something [another case of their hands forced. That's now 2 and not looking good eh?]

I am stating everyone should not get carried away at seeing us splash huge wads of cash, because the STRAPLINE still reads the same... We SELL to BUY... and I saw nothing in this transfer window that says anything different.

Agree, Time will tell JBM, time will tell. Still need a winger though, two ideally cos Kuyt and Rodriguez aren't potent enough...

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Young would've been a big statement of intent. Think Villa were asking for £18m as well. Worth it imo. There'll be a mad scramble for him in the summer and he'll probably go to the Mancs

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jbarkingmad wrote:

Sonny Jim wrote:

jbarkingmad wrote:

We spent £58m approx and recouped £56m. - 2 players in, one a unknown quantity for the PL, one injured.

Although it looked spectacular how we spashed the cash, in effect we spent approx £1.7m and didn't we sell a Reserve player during the window as well, so less again... Plus was Carroll and Suarez deals outright amounts or add ons included to inflate the price... as according to all sources, Torres deal is an outright £50m.

As much as I am excited at who we got, I still feel down inside today. Yep I feel very gutted at how this whole Torres saga happened.

Equally we have a Thread on here saying we are back as major players. Well we re-invested the monies back into the playing squad, so I suppose that's a start after H&G syphoned the money off to pay debts... But we still had to sell to buy, albeit on this occasion Torres forced the Club's hands.

WD & L22 were right when they questioned why we suddenly where willing to pay double for Suarez and push the deal through so quickly... The Club had prior knowledge that Torres was going and therefore knew they would recoup the funds, otherwise why weren't these targets sown up much sooner... and before people knew we would have this cash.

Too many questions to ask again... and I can't help feeling that there wasn't enough done in this transfer window and why perhaps Torres felt the need to leave... at least he raised us necessary funds to buy in two top class replacements, but equally I feel we would have got more in the summer when he wasn't cup tied [just my take on it]...

But for me, if NESV wanted to make a statement, then there would have been more invested and we would have got other top targets such as Young etc. We already know in the summer that we will be selling a lot of players, Aqua, Insua, Poulsen, Konchesky, probably Cole, Jovanovic to name a few... this will raise some funds, but will NESV top this up?

As stated, too many questions and still not enough answers... But at least for the first time since the Summer 08 Transfer window, our spend in the transfer market is showing that we actually spent more than we received... That figure is around £1.5m... To me this doesn't say we had huge investment in the playing squad, just we offloaded a number of players and got 2 in.

Good post JBM.

FSG have spent next to nothing in this window, though I doubt Kenny would lied that they had the money to back him. For me and it's been an on-going sore for 12 years now, we STILL lack skill and pace in the wide areas of the pitch to make enough chances for our new strikers... that alongside the central defence is the main areas where we need top quality reinforcements.

To put yesterday into perspective we only got Maxi Rodriguez on a free this time last year but as you say time will tell.

The perspective is good to show case the previous regime, but... as I keep reiterating, should we always have to bench mark NESV against them. We keep doing that and then they will always have a get-out-clause, because lets face it, anything is an improvement...

But some of us can't be won over so easy. I went to great lengths to demonstrate that H&G should not be given the keys to Anfield, but they got it, with most getting excited. I was shouted down, laughed at, especially when we bought certain players and all seemed rosey...

For me I have always been trying to establish FSG/NESV and where they are going. I mean it took near mutiny to resolve the Roy thing and trust me, NESV nearly had the biggest mess ever to sort out, as it was that close to going off big time... They literally adverted all this with a day to spare.

Now Torres has left and done so under a cloud. Unhappy at broken promises, did he feel there were more???

For me, I was never sure that NESV would invest money this window, especially with Roy there, but a lot of that was there own making by retaining his services for longer than they should...

I hear what Kenny says, but again action speak louder than words and it needs bringing to people's attention that £1.5m investment is basically no more than finishing a few places higher up the PL ladder and can be recovered in the run-in.

There was no investment, lets just be straight up with this, regardless of the feel good factor... and that is the one question that needs slapping at NESV's feet. - Trust me on this. If Torres had gone and we got no one in, then all hell would have broken out, so again they had to do something [another case of their hands forced. That's now 2 and not looking good eh?]

I am stating everyone should not get carried away at seeing us splash huge wads of cash, because the STRAPLINE still reads the same... [size=36]We SELL to BUY[/size]... and I saw nothing in this transfer window that says anything different.

I hear what you're saying, but this is THE FIRST TRANSFER WINDOW and MID SEASON AT THAT when normally there aren't many good deals to be done.

Come the summer, we may be able to judge them more accurately in the 'SUMMER TRANSFER WINDOW' when the kind of players kenny will want will become more readily available.
so as of now... the jury's out.. yes, but let's give them a chance, before thinking up 'conspiracy theories'

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jbarkingmad wrote:

We spent £58m approx and recouped £56m. - 2 players in, one a unknown quantity for the PL, one injured.

Although it looked spectacular how we spashed the cash, in effect we spent approx £1.7m and didn't we sell a Reserve player during the window as well, so less again... Plus was Carroll and Suarez deals outright amounts or add ons included to inflate the price... as according to all sources, Torres deal is an outright £50m.

As much as I am excited at who we got, I still feel down inside today. Yep I feel very gutted at how this whole Torres saga happened.

Equally we have a Thread on here saying we are back as major players. Well we re-invested the monies back into the playing squad, so I suppose that's a start after H&G syphoned the money off to pay debts... But we still had to sell to buy, albeit on this occasion Torres forced the Club's hands.

WD & L22 were right when they questioned why we suddenly where willing to pay double for Suarez and push the deal through so quickly... The Club had prior knowledge that Torres was going and therefore knew they would recoup the funds, otherwise why weren't these targets sown up much sooner... and before people knew we would have this cash.

Too many questions to ask again... and I can't help feeling that there wasn't enough done in this transfer window and why perhaps Torres felt the need to leave... at least he raised us necessary funds to buy in two top class replacements, but equally I feel we would have got more in the summer when he wasn't cup tied [just my take on it]...

But for me, if NESV wanted to make a statement, then there would have been more invested and we would have got other top targets such as Young etc. We already know in the summer that we will be selling a lot of players, Aqua, Insua, Poulsen, Konchesky, probably Cole, Jovanovic to name a few... this will raise some funds, but will NESV top this up?

As stated, too many questions and still not enough answers... But at least for the first time since the Summer 08 Transfer window, our spend in the transfer market is showing that we actually spent more than we received... That figure is around £1.5m... To me this doesn't say we had huge investment in the playing squad, just we offloaded a number of players and got 2 in.

good post.

im delighted that we have owners who wont shy from re-investing any monies raised from player sales. couple of things

1. torres wanted out and wants a shot at winning the champs league this season ( he's not cup tied ) - not to mention the russian roubles being thrown at him
2. players are overpriced in jan markets - eg charlie adam, mario gomez etc so the owners have made a statement of sorts by replacing a want away 26yr old injury prone star with a 21yr old future england no9 - remember kenny signed shearer and his game went thru the roof & a 24yr old predator who reminds me of god Very Happy

so whilst we have a need for a cb/lb and a winger or 2 im sure these areas will be strengthened in the summer
3. refreashing to see us sign young hungry players as opposed to journeymen

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bigpete wrote:

jbarkingmad wrote:

We spent £58m approx and recouped £56m. - 2 players in, one a unknown quantity for the PL, one injured.

Although it looked spectacular how we spashed the cash, in effect we spent approx £1.7m and didn't we sell a Reserve player during the window as well, so less again... Plus was Carroll and Suarez deals outright amounts or add ons included to inflate the price... as according to all sources, Torres deal is an outright £50m.

As much as I am excited at who we got, I still feel down inside today. Yep I feel very gutted at how this whole Torres saga happened.

Equally we have a Thread on here saying we are back as major players. Well we re-invested the monies back into the playing squad, so I suppose that's a start after H&G syphoned the money off to pay debts... But we still had to sell to buy, albeit on this occasion Torres forced the Club's hands.

WD & L22 were right when they questioned why we suddenly where willing to pay double for Suarez and push the deal through so quickly... The Club had prior knowledge that Torres was going and therefore knew they would recoup the funds, otherwise why weren't these targets sown up much sooner... and before people knew we would have this cash.

Too many questions to ask again... and I can't help feeling that there wasn't enough done in this transfer window and why perhaps Torres felt the need to leave... at least he raised us necessary funds to buy in two top class replacements, but equally I feel we would have got more in the summer when he wasn't cup tied [just my take on it]...

But for me, if NESV wanted to make a statement, then there would have been more invested and we would have got other top targets such as Young etc. We already know in the summer that we will be selling a lot of players, Aqua, Insua, Poulsen, Konchesky, probably Cole, Jovanovic to name a few... this will raise some funds, but will NESV top this up?

As stated, too many questions and still not enough answers... But at least for the first time since the Summer 08 Transfer window, our spend in the transfer market is showing that we actually spent more than we received... That figure is around £1.5m... To me this doesn't say we had huge investment in the playing squad, just we offloaded a number of players and got 2 in.

good post.

im delighted that we have owners who wont shy from re-investing any monies raised from player sales. couple of things

1. torres wanted out and wants a shot at winning the champs league this season ( he's not cup tied ) - not to mention the russian roubles being thrown at him
2. players are overpriced in jan markets - eg charlie adam, mario gomez etc so the owners have made a statement of sorts by replacing a want away 26yr old injury prone star with a 21yr old future england no9 - remember kenny signed shearer and his game went thru the roof & a 24yr old predator who reminds me of god Very Happy

so whilst we have a need for a cb/lb and a winger or 2 im sure these areas will be strengthened in the summer
3. refreashing to see us sign young hungry players as opposed to journeymen

Carroll is hungry for a Supersize big mac meal, dairy milk mcflurry and strawberry shake

Jon Bon Jovi wrote:

Young would've been a big statement of intent. Think Villa were asking for £18m as well. Worth it imo. There'll be a mad scramble for him in the summer and he'll probably go to the Mancs

This is the one for me that would have stated our true intent and it should have been before Torres announced he was off. Equally I hoped a strong CB would be in the offing.

Now if we had done this, then I would be singing FSG/NESV's praises and they may have won me over... But, we kept looking to offload players since our new owners arrival.

Now I am worried that the true trend is there. The strategy for the future.

The only good thing is the money [for my opinion and what it is worth] appears to have been invested wisely and the owners kept to their statement of young talent. But equally it is worrying that their value will go up and when they are ripe, we again sell them.

We spent 6 seasons under Rafa with limited investment... £70m, [approx £12m per season] most of this actually raised with our runs under him [Rafa] in the CL... Would it be foolish to suggest that this is again the only way we will see investment in the playing squad???

I harbour real concerns and with good reason... and for me, our star player seemed to share those concerns.

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jbarkingmad wrote:

Jon Bon Jovi wrote:

Young would've been a big statement of intent. Think Villa were asking for £18m as well. Worth it imo. There'll be a mad scramble for him in the summer and he'll probably go to the Mancs

This is the one for me that would have stated our true intent and it should have been before Torres announced he was off. Equally I hoped a strong CB would be in the offing.

Now if we had done this, then I would be singing FSG/NESV's praises and they may have won me over... But, we kept looking to offload players since our new owners arrival.

Now I am worried that the true trend is there. The strategy for the future.

The only good thing is the money [for my opinion and what it is worth] appears to have been invested wisely and the owners kept to their statement of young talent. But equally it is worrying that their value will go up and when they are ripe, we again sell them.

We spent 6 seasons under Rafa with limited investment... £70m, [approx £12m per season] most of this actually raised with our runs under him [Rafa] in the CL... Would it be foolish to suggest that this is again the only way we will see investment in the playing squad???

I harbour real concerns and with good reason... and for me, our star player seemed to share those concerns.

ashley young has 18 months left on his contract.

FSG/ NESV will probably be looking to buy him in the summer , his value may be better AND again, we may have some better options.

IMO, i'm glad they backed away from spending more than 10M on Adam and 25M or whatever on young. it showed they won't be bullied.

let's wait until the summer and see.

i'm still gutted we lost torres, but kenny is the most important individual now in the scheme of things and FSG have backed him .