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PostSubject: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:49 am

Dear Mr & Mrs Cameron,

Why did you never take the time to teach your child basic morality?

As a young man, he was in a gang that regularly smashed up private property. We know that you were absent parents who left your child to be brought up by a school rather than taking responsibility for his behaviour yourselves. The fact that he became a delinquent with no sense of respect for the property of others can only reflect that fact that you are terrible, lazy human beings who failed even in teaching your children the difference between right and wrong. I can only assume that his contempt for the small business owners of Oxford is indicative of his wider values.

Even worse, your neglect led him to fall in with a bad crowd. He became best friends with a young man who set fire to buildings for fun. And others:

There’s Michael Gove, whose wet-lipped rage was palpable on Newsnight last night. This is the Michael Gove who confused one of his houses with another of his houses in order to avail himself of £7,000 of the taxpayers’ money to which he was not entitled (or £13,000, depending on which house you think was which).

Or Hazel Blears, who was interviewed in full bristling peahen mode for almost all of last night. She once forgot which house she lived in, and benefited to the tune of £18,000. At the time she said it would take her reputation years to recover. Unfortunately not.

But, of course, this is different. This is just understandable confusion over the rules of how many houses you are meant to have as an MP. This doesn’t show the naked greed of people stealing plasma tellies.

Unless you’re Gerald Kaufman, who broke parliamentary rules to get £8,000 worth of 40-inch, flat screen, Bang and Olufsen TV out of the taxpayer.

Or Ed Vaizey, who got £2,000 in antique furniture ‘delivered to the wrong address’. Which is fortunate, because had that been the address they were intended for, that would have been fraud.

Or Jeremy Hunt, who broke the rules to the tune of almost £20,000 on one property and £2,000 on another. But it’s all right, because he agreed to pay half of the money back. Not the full amount, it would be absurd to expect him to pay back the entire sum that he took and to which he was not entitled. No, we’ll settle for half. And, as in any other field, what might have been considered embezzlement of £22,000 is overlooked. We know, after all, that David Cameron likes to give people second chances.

Fortunately, we have the Met Police to look after us. We’ll ignore the fact that two of its senior officers have had to resign in the last six weeks amid suspicions of widespread corruption within the force.

We’ll ignore Andy Hayman, who went for champagne dinners with those he was meant to be investigating, and then joined the company on leaving the Met.

Of course, Mr and Mrs Cameron, your son is right. There are parts of society that are not just broken, they are sick. Riddled with disease from top to bottom.

Just let me be clear about this (It’s a good phrase, Mr and Mrs Cameron, and one I looted from every sentence your son utters, just as he looted it from Tony Blair), I am not justifying or minimising in any way what has been done by the looters over the last few nights. What I am doing, however, is expressing shock and dismay that your son and his friends feel themselves in any way to be guardians of morality in this country.

Can they really, as 650 people who have shown themselves to be venal pygmies, moral dwarves at every opportunity over the last 20 years, bleat at others about ‘criminality’. Those who decided that when they broke the rules (the rules they themselves set) they, on the whole wouldn’t face the consequences of their actions?

Are they really surprised that this country’s culture is swamped in greed, in the acquisition of material things, in a lust for consumer goods of the most base kind? Really?

Let’s have a think back: cash-for-questions; Bernie Ecclestone; cash-for-access; Mandelson’s mortgage; the Hinduja passports; Blunkett’s alleged insider trading (and, by the way, when someone has had to resign in disgrace twice can we stop having them on television as a commentator, please?); the meetings on the yachts of oligarchs; the drafting of the Digital Economy Act with Lucian Grange; Byers’, Hewitt’s & Hoon’s desperation to prostitute themselves and their positions; the fact that Andrew Lansley (in charge of NHS reforms) has a wife who gives lobbying advice to the very companies hoping to benefit from the NHS reforms. And that list didn’t even take me very long to think of.

Our politicians are for sale and they do not care who knows it.

Oh yes, and then there’s the expenses thing. Widescale abuse of the very systems they designed, almost all of them grasping what they could while they remained MPs, to build their nest egg for the future at the public’s expense. They even now whine on Twitter about having their expenses claims for getting back to Parliament while much of the country is on fire subject to any examination. True public servants.

The last few days have revealed some truths, and some heartening truths. The fact that the #riotcleanup crews had organised themselves before David Cameron even made time for a public statement is heartening. The fact that local communities came together to keep their neighbourhoods safe when the police failed is heartening. The fact that there were peace vigils being organised (even as the police tried to dissuade people) is heartening.

There is hope for this country. But we must stop looking upwards for it. The politicians are the ones leading the charge into the gutter.

David Cameron was entirely right when he said: “It is a complete lack of responsibility in parts of our society, people allowed to think that the world owes them something, that their rights outweigh their responsibilities, and that their actions do not have consequences.”

He was more right than he knew.

And I blame the parents.
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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:52 am

I have to say this is sadly so true, as I said in another post I felt sick as these imposters sat in judgement and pontificated about our youth, politicians are the scum in this country and our whole system stinks to high heaven.
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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:13 am

http://nathanieltapley.com/2011/08/10/an-open-letter-to-david-camerons-parents/



Thats excellent, where is it from? If it's yours L12 superb if not quote the source please as I'd like to use it.



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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:32 pm

F2F wrote:
http://nathanieltapley.com/2011/08/10/an-open-letter-to-david-camerons-parents/



Thats excellent, where is it from? If it's yours L12 superb if not quote the source please as I'd like to use it.



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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:40 pm

moretonsteve wrote:
F2F wrote:
http://nathanieltapley.com/2011/08/10/an-open-letter-to-david-camerons-parents/



Thats excellent, where is it from? If it's yours L12 superb if not quote the source please as I'd like to use it.



Edit: Found it


Where was it?




The link up above ^^^^^^^^^

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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:45 pm

L_12 wrote:
Dear Mr & Mrs Cameron,

Why did you never take the time to teach your child basic morality?

As a young man, he was in a gang that regularly smashed up private property. We know that you were absent parents who left your child to be brought up by a school rather than taking responsibility for his behaviour yourselves. The fact that he became a delinquent with no sense of respect for the property of others can only reflect that fact that you are terrible, lazy human beings who failed even in teaching your children the difference between right and wrong. I can only assume that his contempt for the small business owners of Oxford is indicative of his wider values.

Even worse, your neglect led him to fall in with a bad crowd. He became best friends with a young man who set fire to buildings for fun. And others:

There’s Michael Gove, whose wet-lipped rage was palpable on Newsnight last night. This is the Michael Gove who confused one of his houses with another of his houses in order to avail himself of £7,000 of the taxpayers’ money to which he was not entitled (or £13,000, depending on which house you think was which).

Or Hazel Blears, who was interviewed in full bristling peahen mode for almost all of last night. She once forgot which house she lived in, and benefited to the tune of £18,000. At the time she said it would take her reputation years to recover. Unfortunately not.

But, of course, this is different. This is just understandable confusion over the rules of how many houses you are meant to have as an MP. This doesn’t show the naked greed of people stealing plasma tellies.

Unless you’re Gerald Kaufman, who broke parliamentary rules to get £8,000 worth of 40-inch, flat screen, Bang and Olufsen TV out of the taxpayer.

Or Ed Vaizey, who got £2,000 in antique furniture ‘delivered to the wrong address’. Which is fortunate, because had that been the address they were intended for, that would have been fraud.

Or Jeremy Hunt, who broke the rules to the tune of almost £20,000 on one property and £2,000 on another. But it’s all right, because he agreed to pay half of the money back. Not the full amount, it would be absurd to expect him to pay back the entire sum that he took and to which he was not entitled. No, we’ll settle for half. And, as in any other field, what might have been considered embezzlement of £22,000 is overlooked. We know, after all, that David Cameron likes to give people second chances.

Fortunately, we have the Met Police to look after us. We’ll ignore the fact that two of its senior officers have had to resign in the last six weeks amid suspicions of widespread corruption within the force.

We’ll ignore Andy Hayman, who went for champagne dinners with those he was meant to be investigating, and then joined the company on leaving the Met.

Of course, Mr and Mrs Cameron, your son is right. There are parts of society that are not just broken, they are sick. Riddled with disease from top to bottom.

Just let me be clear about this (It’s a good phrase, Mr and Mrs Cameron, and one I looted from every sentence your son utters, just as he looted it from Tony Blair), I am not justifying or minimising in any way what has been done by the looters over the last few nights. What I am doing, however, is expressing shock and dismay that your son and his friends feel themselves in any way to be guardians of morality in this country.

Can they really, as 650 people who have shown themselves to be venal pygmies, moral dwarves at every opportunity over the last 20 years, bleat at others about ‘criminality’. Those who decided that when they broke the rules (the rules they themselves set) they, on the whole wouldn’t face the consequences of their actions?

Are they really surprised that this country’s culture is swamped in greed, in the acquisition of material things, in a lust for consumer goods of the most base kind? Really?

Let’s have a think back: cash-for-questions; Bernie Ecclestone; cash-for-access; Mandelson’s mortgage; the Hinduja passports; Blunkett’s alleged insider trading (and, by the way, when someone has had to resign in disgrace twice can we stop having them on television as a commentator, please?); the meetings on the yachts of oligarchs; the drafting of the Digital Economy Act with Lucian Grange; Byers’, Hewitt’s & Hoon’s desperation to prostitute themselves and their positions; the fact that Andrew Lansley (in charge of NHS reforms) has a wife who gives lobbying advice to the very companies hoping to benefit from the NHS reforms. And that list didn’t even take me very long to think of.

Our politicians are for sale and they do not care who knows it.

Oh yes, and then there’s the expenses thing. Widescale abuse of the very systems they designed, almost all of them grasping what they could while they remained MPs, to build their nest egg for the future at the public’s expense. They even now whine on Twitter about having their expenses claims for getting back to Parliament while much of the country is on fire subject to any examination. True public servants.

The last few days have revealed some truths, and some heartening truths. The fact that the #riotcleanup crews had organised themselves before David Cameron even made time for a public statement is heartening. The fact that local communities came together to keep their neighbourhoods safe when the police failed is heartening. The fact that there were peace vigils being organised (even as the police tried to dissuade people) is heartening.

There is hope for this country. But we must stop looking upwards for it. The politicians are the ones leading the charge into the gutter.

David Cameron was entirely right when he said: “It is a complete lack of responsibility in parts of our society, people allowed to think that the world owes them something, that their rights outweigh their responsibilities, and that their actions do not have consequences.”

He was more right than he knew.

And I blame the parents.



This is true and the truth will eventually become undeniable.

Of course it will not stop the attempts . . . . . . . .the fact of the matter is there is one set of laws for the wealthy and another for the poor . . . . . .any true democracy would of course outlaw the Bullingdon Club and its ilk. It exists to prove only one thing - that one law operates for the rich and another for the poor, nothing more and nothing less

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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:13 pm

http://www.wikihow.com/Start-a-Revolution

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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:26 pm

The moral decay of our society is as bad at the top as the bottom


David Cameron, Ed Miliband and the entire British political class came together yesterday to denounce the rioters. They were of course right to say that the actions of these looters, arsonists and muggers were abhorrent and criminal, and that the police should be given more support.

But there was also something very phony and hypocritical about all the shock and outrage expressed in parliament. MPs spoke about the week’s dreadful events as if they were nothing to do with them.

I cannot accept that this is the case. Indeed, I believe that the criminality in our streets cannot be dissociated from the moral disintegration in the highest ranks of modern British society. The last two decades have seen a terrifying decline in standards among the British governing elite. It has become acceptable for our politicians to lie and to cheat. An almost universal culture of selfishness and greed has grown up.

It is not just the feral youth of Tottenham who have forgotten they have duties as well as rights. So have the feral rich of Chelsea and Kensington. A few years ago, my wife and I went to a dinner party in a large house in west London. A security guard prowled along the street outside, and there was much talk of the “north-south divide”, which I took literally for a while until I realised that my hosts were facetiously referring to the difference between those who lived north and south of Kensington High Street.

Most of the people in this very expensive street were every bit as deracinated and cut off from the rest of Britain as the young, unemployed men and women who have caused such terrible damage over the last few days. For them, the repellent Financial Times magazine How to Spend It is a bible. I’d guess that few of them bother to pay British tax if they can avoid it, and that fewer still feel the sense of obligation to society that only a few decades ago came naturally to the wealthy and better off.

Yet we celebrate people who live empty lives like this. A few weeks ago, I noticed an item in a newspaper saying that the business tycoon Sir Richard Branson was thinking of moving his headquarters to Switzerland. This move was represented as a potential blow to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, because it meant less tax revenue.

I couldn’t help thinking that in a sane and decent world such a move would be a blow to Sir Richard, not the Chancellor. People would note that a prominent and wealthy businessman was avoiding British tax and think less of him. Instead, he has a knighthood and is widely feted. The same is true of the brilliant retailer Sir Philip Green. Sir Philip’s businesses could never survive but for Britain’s famous social and political stability, our transport system to shift his goods and our schools to educate his workers.

Yet Sir Philip, who a few years ago sent an extraordinary £1 billion dividend offshore, seems to have little intention of paying for much of this. Why does nobody get angry or hold him culpable? I know that he employs expensive tax lawyers and that everything he does is legal, but he surely faces ethical and moral questions just as much as does a young thug who breaks into one of Sir Philip’s shops and steals from it?

Our politicians – standing sanctimoniously on their hind legs in the Commons yesterday – are just as bad. They have shown themselves prepared to ignore common decency and, in some cases, to break the law. David Cameron is happy to have some of the worst offenders in his Cabinet. Take the example of Francis Maude, who is charged with tackling public sector waste – which trade unions say is a euphemism for waging war on low‑paid workers. Yet Mr Maude made tens of thousands of pounds by breaching the spirit, though not the law, surrounding MPs’ allowances.

A great deal has been made over the past few days of the greed of the rioters for consumer goods, not least by Rotherham MP Denis MacShane who accurately remarked, “What the looters wanted was for a few minutes to enter the world of Sloane Street consumption.” This from a man who notoriously claimed £5,900 for eight laptops. Of course, as an MP he obtained these laptops legally through his expenses.

Yesterday, the veteran Labour MP Gerald Kaufman asked the Prime Minister to consider how these rioters can be “reclaimed” by society. Yes, this is indeed the same Gerald Kaufman who submitted a claim for three months’ expenses totalling £14,301.60, which included £8,865 for a Bang & Olufsen television.

Or take the Salford MP Hazel Blears, who has been loudly calling for draconian action against the looters. I find it very hard to make any kind of ethical distinction between Blears’s expense cheating and tax avoidance, and the straight robbery carried out by the looters.

The Prime Minister showed no sign that he understood that something stank about yesterday’s Commons debate. He spoke of morality, but only as something which applies to the very poor: “We will restore a stronger sense of morality and responsibility – in every town, in every street and in every estate.” He appeared not to grasp that this should apply to the rich and powerful as well.

The tragic truth is that Mr Cameron is himself guilty of failing this test. It is scarcely six weeks since he jauntily turned up at the News International summer party, even though the media group was at the time subject to not one but two police investigations. Even more notoriously, he awarded a senior Downing Street job to the former News of the World editor Andy Coulson, even though he knew at the time that Coulson had resigned after criminal acts were committed under his editorship. The Prime Minister excused his wretched judgment by proclaiming that “everybody deserves a second chance”. It was very telling yesterday that he did not talk of second chances as he pledged exemplary punishment for the rioters and looters.

These double standards from Downing Street are symptomatic of widespread double standards at the very top of our society. It should be stressed that most people (including, I know, Telegraph readers) continue to believe in honesty, decency, hard work, and putting back into society at least as much as they take out.

But there are those who do not. Certainly, the so-called feral youth seem oblivious to decency and morality. But so are the venal rich and powerful – too many of our bankers, footballers, wealthy businessmen and politicians.

Of course, most of them are smart and wealthy enough to make sure that they obey the law. That cannot be said of the sad young men and women, without hope or aspiration, who have caused such mayhem and chaos over the past few days. But the rioters have this defence: they are just following the example set by senior and respected figures in society. Let’s bear in mind that many of the youths in our inner cities have never been trained in decent values. All they have ever known is barbarism. Our politicians and bankers, in sharp contrast, tend to have been to good schools and universities and to have been given every opportunity in life.

Something has gone horribly wrong in Britain. If we are ever to confront the problems which have been exposed in the past week, it is essential to bear in mind that they do not only exist in inner-city housing estates.

The culture of greed and impunity we are witnessing on our TV screens stretches right up into corporate boardrooms and the Cabinet. It embraces the police and large parts of our media. It is not just its damaged youth, but Britain itself that needs a moral reformation.

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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:31 pm

Some of us alluded to this in the "London Riots" thread but this malaise did not start 20 years ago.

The individualist greed culture was instigated and nurtured by Maggie which Obone slightly disingenuously fails to mention. Your guess is as good as mine as to why he failed to do this. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:32 am

Applecore wrote:
I have to say this is sadly so true, as I said in another post I felt sick as these imposters sat in judgement and pontificated about our youth, politicians are the scum in this country and our whole system stinks to high heaven.


They're mostly on a different level, but scum just the same mate.
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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:40 am

Sonny Jim wrote:
Some of us alluded to this in the "London Riots" thread but this malaise did not start 20 years ago.

The individualist greed culture was instigated and nurtured by Maggie which Obone slightly disingenuously fails to mention. Your guess is as good as mine as to why he failed to do this. Wink


Whilst I don't disagree that Margaret Hilda was at the forefront, I'm of the opinion that the seeds were sown in the 60's and that the combination of a mindless, self centred youth and political stategies to decimate industries (that bitch again) and create a greed for material wealth, whilst dismantling the utilities into private and often foreign ownership (a regime that was continued and further perpetuated by the following Labour Party), was indeed a toxic mix.
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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:20 am

we have just come out of a 15 year period of zero mass disorder low crime rate and peace in N Ireland.

81 = riots... Tories
85 = riots.. tories
poll tax riots.. Tories
miners = riots.. Tories.
Northern Ireland = riots..., Tories
Student riots ... Tories
now =. riots ... Tories.

coincidence?

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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:48 pm

rome77 wrote:
we have just come out of a 15 year period of zero mass disorder low crime rate and peace in N Ireland.

81 = riots... Tories
85 = riots.. tories
poll tax riots.. Tories
miners = riots.. Tories.
Northern Ireland = riots..., Tories
Student riots ... Tories
now =. riots ... Tories.

coincidence?



Indeed, but not really coincidental. Don't forget that the malaise and political interference had its seeds firmly established from the 1960's onwards, (only my opinion).

Under Noo Labour ....

2000 - The country ground to a halt and there were numerous blockades and protests against the Noo Labour Government in what became to be known as The Fuel Protests.

2001 Bradford riots

2001 Burnley riots

2001 Oldham riots

2001 Harehills riot

2005 Birmingham race riots

2006 Windsor riots

Also (as you allude to events in NI), the then Prime Minister when the British Army was deployed to Northern Ireland in 1969, as the outbreak of disorder and rioting grew, was under the direction of the Labour Prime Minister, Harold Wilson.

These are facts, are they not?
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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:05 pm

Redguard wrote:
rome77 wrote:
we have just come out of a 15 year period of zero mass disorder low crime rate and peace in N Ireland.

81 = riots... Tories
85 = riots.. tories
poll tax riots.. Tories
miners = riots.. Tories.
Northern Ireland = riots..., Tories
Student riots ... Tories
now =. riots ... Tories.

coincidence?



Indeed, but not really coincidental. Don't forget that the malaise and political interference had its seeds firmly established from the 1960's onwards, (only my opinion).

Under Noo Labour ....

2000 - The country ground to a halt and there were numerous blockades and protests against the Noo Labour Government in what became to be known as The Fuel Protests.

2001 Bradford riots

2001 Burnley riots

2001 Oldham riots

2001 Harehills riot

2005 Birmingham race riots

2006 Windsor riots

Also (as you allude to events in NI), the then Prime Minister when the British Army was deployed to Northern Ireland in 1969, as the outbreak of disorder and rioting grew, was under the direction of the Labour Prime Minister, Harold Wilson.

These are facts, are they not?


all the above where localized community issues, windsor ha ha.

iam talking about real riots with everyone involved black, white, Student, workers, against the Establishment.
i think you know the score
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PostSubject: Re: An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents   Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:22 pm

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all the above where localized community issues, windsor ha ha.

iam talking about real riots with everyone involved black, white, Student, workers, against the Establishment.
i think you know the score


I just mentioned facts in an impartial way, I'm not really into point scoring, feel free though to make your point.

I wouldn't class the events in Northern Ireland as being insignificant or 'localised community issues' - as you put it, (you originally alluded to Northern Ireland so I'm just curious as to why you've obviously airbrushed over your original comment regarding NI in your last reply) ..... would you like to make any comment?
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