Patrice Evra

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I was just googling Evra to find out about his background and found quite a few interesting bits.

He is the son of a Senegales diplomat, went to a top class school (as you would expect from the son of a diplomat) in France, and speaks 5 languages (we should assume Spanish is one of them). So, by all means he is a very well educated fellow.

Having been born in Senegal, AFRICA, he has been back only once when he was a little boy. His father is Senegalese and yet, not only he refuses to play for his country of origin (he rather sides with the rich French team, so that whenever he feels "offended" he can walk away from them) but get this, he has accused his Senegalese compatriot of yes, you guessed right, of racially abusing him.

The more I read about this man, the more repulsive he grows in front of my eyes. So, he is an African who has refused his own culture and people, and on top of that who accuses them of abusing him (clearly he accuses anyone who get nears him of racially abusing him). It is so paranoid that it doesn't deserves further commenting.

Unlike Suarez he has been well educated, and a privileged man since he came into this world. He should be educating others and showing solidarity to the people who were not as lucky as him. Instead he goes around doing exactly the opposite. Wanker.

Subject: Re: Patrice Evra Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:44 am

We all know what he is, a cnut. Or should i say a coloured cnut? Anyone on here has more African in them, with having a wife from a different country and culture i know how proud of their countries the average joe from them countries is. Take Drogba and Adebayor spent most of their lives in France who do they play for? He is a cnut nothing else.

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Unfortunately all this falls on deaf ears at the fossils home for failed football bureaucrats namely the FA

Subject: Re: Patrice Evra Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:42 pm

This is getting ridiculous. In our efforts to defend our player we're becoming really nasty in the process.

Saying a guy has "refused his own culture and people" because he plays for another National Team? Better add Zidane, Balotelli and John Aldridge and a few thousand more to that list while we're at it.

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WealthyB wrote:

This is getting ridiculous. In our efforts to defend our player we're becoming really nasty in the process.

Saying a guy has "refused his own culture and people" because he plays for another National Team? Better add Zidane, Balotelli and John Aldridge and a few thousand more to that list while we're at it.

That's not the centre of my argument. It is the fact that he also accused his own compatriots of racially abusing him. There is a pattern mate. Just making the point.

Subject: Re: Patrice Evra Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:58 pm

Graffitti wrote:

WealthyB wrote:

This is getting ridiculous. In our efforts to defend our player we're becoming really nasty in the process.

Saying a guy has "refused his own culture and people" because he plays for another National Team? Better add Zidane, Balotelli and John Aldridge and a few thousand more to that list while we're at it.

That's not the centre of my argument. It is the fact that he also accused his own compatriots of racially abusing him. There is a pattern mate. Just making the point.

It may not be the centre of your argument, but you use it in a derogatory sense to build your profile of Evra; and it's a ridiculous thing to use against any footballer to be fair.

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Subject: Re: Patrice Evra Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:00 pm

WealthyB wrote:

This is getting ridiculous. In our efforts to defend our player we're becoming really nasty in the process.

Saying a guy has "refused his own culture and people" because he plays for another National Team? Better add Zidane, Balotelli and John Aldridge and a few thousand more to that list while we're at it.

I have to agree!!

add to your list John Barnes. Born in Jamaica Barnsey registered as a British Citizen in the late 80's, could have played for Jamaica.

Fact of the matter is Suarez 'by his own admission', used the term Negrito, a direct reference to Evra's colour, thus breaking the FA Rules.

The FA (panel) have agreed that Suarez is not a racist, as has Patrice Evra.
The FA could not prove the cas of racism against him as the 'Spanish' word does not exist in the English Language, and is not considered racist by Spanish Speakers, it does however referto the colour of Evra's skin.

I hope the club appeal against the eight game ban, on the grounds that it is excessive, given the word used and it's non-racist connotations in Uraguay and many other Spanish speaking countries.

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Subject: Re: Patrice Evra Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:04 pm

Graffitti wrote:

WealthyB wrote:

This is getting ridiculous. In our efforts to defend our player we're becoming really nasty in the process.

Saying a guy has "refused his own culture and people" because he plays for another National Team? Better add Zidane, Balotelli and John Aldridge and a few thousand more to that list while we're at it.

That's not the centre of my argument. It is the fact that he also accused his own compatriots of racially abusing him. There is a pattern mate. Just making the point.

Do you know for certain that his "compatriots" did not racially abuse him, or is the centre of your argument based solely on hearsay?

Evra only lived in Senegal for the first 12 months of his life, his fathers work took him to Belgium, and they later settled in France.

He's lived in the UK longer than he lived in Senegal.

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L22Red wrote:

Graffitti wrote:

WealthyB wrote:

This is getting ridiculous. In our efforts to defend our player we're becoming really nasty in the process.

Saying a guy has "refused his own culture and people" because he plays for another National Team? Better add Zidane, Balotelli and John Aldridge and a few thousand more to that list while we're at it.

That's not the centre of my argument. It is the fact that he also accused his own compatriots of racially abusing him. There is a pattern mate. Just making the point.

Do you know for certain that his "compatriots" did not racially abuse him, or is the centre of your argument based solely on hearsay?

Evra only lived in Senegal for the first 12 months of his life, his fathers work took him to Belgium, and they later settled in France.

He's lived in the UK longer than he lived in Senegal.

By his own admission they called him "monkey of the whites", which could be considered a racist offense or not (it could relate more to being a pet of the whites in my opinion).

Whatever you say, if Suarez is racist so is Evra. He called him sudaca or southamerican in a pejorative way and with the aggravating of choosing Suarez's own language to a)escape the referee's attention and b)make the racist offense nastier.

If you want to keep defending him that's your call. Good luck.

Subject: Re: Patrice Evra Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:44 pm

Graffitti wrote:

L22Red wrote:

Graffitti wrote:

WealthyB wrote:

This is getting ridiculous. In our efforts to defend our player we're becoming really nasty in the process.

Saying a guy has "refused his own culture and people" because he plays for another National Team? Better add Zidane, Balotelli and John Aldridge and a few thousand more to that list while we're at it.

That's not the centre of my argument. It is the fact that he also accused his own compatriots of racially abusing him. There is a pattern mate. Just making the point.

Do you know for certain that his "compatriots" did not racially abuse him, or is the centre of your argument based solely on hearsay?

Evra only lived in Senegal for the first 12 months of his life, his fathers work took him to Belgium, and they later settled in France.

He's lived in the UK longer than he lived in Senegal.

By his own admission they called him "monkey of the whites", which could be considered a racist offense or not (it could relate more to being a pet of the whites in my opinion).

Whatever you say, if Suarez is racist so is Evra. He called him sudaca or southamerican in a pejorative way and with the aggravating of choosing Suarez's own language to a)escape the referee's attention and b)make the racist offense nastier.

If you want to keep defending him that's your call. Good luck.

Suarez isn't racist!

He used a Spanish word that relates to Evra's Colour and thus broke the FA Rules.

By the way, I'm not defending Evra, just pointing out the flaws in your argument. What Evra did or didn't call Suarez is a moot point, because Luis has admitted using the term Negrito in reply.

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I wonder what our stance would be if we were Man United fans?

Fred, can you give us an insight?

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L22Red wrote:

Graffitti wrote:

L22Red wrote:

Do you know for certain that his "compatriots" did not racially abuse him, or is the centre of your argument based solely on hearsay?

Evra only lived in Senegal for the first 12 months of his life, his fathers work took him to Belgium, and they later settled in France.

He's lived in the UK longer than he lived in Senegal.

By his own admission they called him "monkey of the whites", which could be considered a racist offense or not (it could relate more to being a pet of the whites in my opinion).

Whatever you say, if Suarez is racist so is Evra. He called him sudaca or southamerican in a pejorative way and with the aggravating of choosing Suarez's own language to a)escape the referee's attention and b)make the racist offense nastier.

If you want to keep defending him that's your call. Good luck.

Suarez isn't racist!

He used a Spanish word that relates to Evra's Colour and thus broke the FA Rules.

By the way, I'm not defending Evra, just pointing out the flaws in your argument. What Evra did or didn't call Suarez is a moot point, because Luis has admitted using the term Negrito in reply.

That is a matter of interpretation whether he meant the word to reference his colour, we will never know unless he tells all later on.

Subject: Re: Patrice Evra Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:47 pm

BarnesNBeardsley wrote:

L22Red wrote:

Graffitti wrote:

L22Red wrote:

Do you know for certain that his "compatriots" did not racially abuse him, or is the centre of your argument based solely on hearsay?

Evra only lived in Senegal for the first 12 months of his life, his fathers work took him to Belgium, and they later settled in France.

He's lived in the UK longer than he lived in Senegal.

By his own admission they called him "monkey of the whites", which could be considered a racist offense or not (it could relate more to being a pet of the whites in my opinion).

Whatever you say, if Suarez is racist so is Evra. He called him sudaca or southamerican in a pejorative way and with the aggravating of choosing Suarez's own language to a)escape the referee's attention and b)make the racist offense nastier.

If you want to keep defending him that's your call. Good luck.

Suarez isn't racist!

He used a Spanish word that relates to Evra's Colour and thus broke the FA Rules.

By the way, I'm not defending Evra, just pointing out the flaws in your argument. What Evra did or didn't call Suarez is a moot point, because Luis has admitted using the term Negrito in reply.

That is a matter of interpretation whether he meant the word to reference his colour, we will never know unless he tells all later on.

I'm not a Spanish speaker.... but what else does the word Negrito refer to?

The Spanish speaking posters have already confirmed it translates to "My little BLACK friend" ergo he is referring to Evra's skin colour.

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L22Red wrote:

BarnesNBeardsley wrote:

L22Red wrote:

Suarez isn't racist!

He used a Spanish word that relates to Evra's Colour and thus broke the FA Rules.

By the way, I'm not defending Evra, just pointing out the flaws in your argument. What Evra did or didn't call Suarez is a moot point, because Luis has admitted using the term Negrito in reply.

That is a matter of interpretation whether he meant the word to reference his colour, we will never know unless he tells all later on.

I'm not a Spanish speaker.... but what else does the word Negrito refer to?

The Spanish speaking posters have already confirmed it translates to "My little BLACK friend" ergo he is referring to Evra's skin colour.

Mate of mine is Venezuelan and his best mate is black. My mate says he uses the word as a term of endearment with his mate. He says it's completely down to the context and way the word is said though. I have a feeling Suarez used it in it's derogatory format. I don't think Suarez is racist though but I do think he wanted to insult Evra and this is the first thing that came to his head. All in all Suarez was stupid and will definitely learn from this

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Jon Bon Jovi wrote:

I wonder what our stance would be if we were Man United fans?

Fred, can you give us an insight?